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I don’t remember using anything other than a blue gel on the Tweenies but there were some regular cool tubes in the mix. Together the effect would have been a little cyan in places.
June 27, 2024 at 11:35 pm in reply to: akiyoshi kitaoka illusion (zoom lens vs speed of train) #215976That is a good breakdown of optical effects – I still think the train is slowing down as it gets closer to the station.
I like that the Gossen shows you the range of your exposure in a simple analogue readout. I have a digital Gossen but can’t get used to it.
BTW. Yes I was pulling stop on many occasions during shooting 1917. On many, many occasions.
Primarily, naturalism. I wanted the feel of the darkness of the spaces without losing the characters. The film is about the characters above all. My lens choices were in the 28 to 40mm range. I don’t remember anything above a 50mm. Maybe a 65mm. But I can’t picture the exact shot you are asking about.
There is always a place where you want your mid exposure to fall. Here it would be the sink counter top. Another example would be a wall which you want to read as a stop under. While I have to admit it is easier to shoot a scene like this with a calibrated monitor to refer to, the viewing conditions when you look at the monitor can be deceptive. That is why a meter is always a good tool.
June 22, 2024 at 11:48 am in reply to: akiyoshi kitaoka illusion (zoom lens vs speed of train) #215962Max, what you say is quite right but in this example the camera is zooming in and not moving position to match the frame. Here, the effect is purely of a long lens and a slowing train. The wide angle is shot far from the platform and feels fast. When the camera zooms in the shot looks slow in comparison to what you have just seen. The longer lens is creating some of that effect but the train is also slowing. Maybe there is some camera speed change. Hard to know for sure. Life is a mystery.
Yes, I was trying to shoot at around 3.2/4.0. Not always possible as the light was so variable during long takes.
I suggest it comes from intuition and experience. A lens width is the same on a horizontal plane as it is in a vertical one. So the width of a shot on a similar lens translates one to one.
June 18, 2024 at 3:42 pm in reply to: akiyoshi kitaoka illusion (zoom lens vs speed of train) #215945Are you sure the effect is an illusion or a manipulation?
You can’t really do better than a plastic bag and gaffer tape. I too would worry about ghosting with a filter but an optically clear glass would protect your lens.
I still use a meter to judge my exposure, even with a calibrated monitor. I use a Gossen Luna Pro, usually with the invercone and in incident mode. For the shot your reference I would have stood where the actors are and pointed my meter towards the camera.
I would use some gel, just as David suggested. You could always get a swatch of small leaves of gel than match an LED to the color you prefer. Its either that or match a full color LED to a mercury vapor fixture.
I remember the 4′ x 4′ bounce muslin was resting on the floor.
I seem to remember we used the pan to emphasize the passage of time or simply make a softer cut between scenes. Who’s idea? Probably one each. We discussed the script and our shooting pattern well in advance and these kind of languid pans seemed right for the piece. Of course, most were lost in the cut.
Yes, that was a long time ago. I laugh at this scene because we had tented the whole house, so that I had room for lamps outside, but by the time we came to shoot it was dark outside.
The bounce source was an unbleached muslin and I suspect the lamps was attached to the ceiling. Otherwise, as you say, the light would have been too close. The hard light was supposed to mimic a street lamp. Just a 650 with a half blue gel on it.
The rain? Yes, the rain felt like it mirrored the sadness of the scene. ‘In Cold Blood’ did it so much better.
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