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  • in reply to: PLEASE HELP, lighting night EXT #244997
    Frank
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      Re: day-for-night, is the location so sparsely wooded that you will inevitably see too much sky from any conceivable angle? What is the weather going to be like? What is the angle of the sun on location during dawn and dusk?

      If you have clear blue skies, shooting black-and-white for day-for-night in combination with a red filter to darken the sky can be very successful. Things like graduated ND filters are also a possibility depending on the horizon line.

      Guillermo Navarro’s work in Pan’s Labyrinth is an example of successful DFN in a forest setting with skies often visible.

      in reply to: Spider noir #241254
      Frank
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        You can purchase a copy of the two-disc Region 3 DVD that included the color version. Maybe on eBay.

        in reply to: Spider noir #240760
        Frank
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          Hmm…Reminds me a bit of the situation with Deakins on The Man Who Wasn’t There, though Spider-Noir handled it differently by designing for both from day one.

          I’ve seen screen captures of the color version of ‘The Man Who Wasn’t There’ that was released in some markets and it seemed obvious that as much had been done to get it to conform to the intended B&W image as possible. It’s heavily de-saturated and has a sort of ‘bichrome’ look to maintain differences in tonality without adding too much color information, sort of reminiscent of two-color Technicolor from the 1920s and ’30s. There isn’t that much more shadow information in most scenes and it’s clear that the the film was lit and exposed one way, for B&W.

           

          It stands in sharp contrast to Spider Noir where the color version is heavily saturated and the B&W version largely feels like grayscale and higher contrast have then been applied on top of that.

          in reply to: Question about Modified Aspect Ratios #238871
          Frank
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            Weren’t all the technical innovations in widescreen in the 1950s spurred on by economic competition from television? Since commercial films started shooting IMAX in 2008 it’s basically been the modern-day equivalent of exhibition formats like Cinerama and CinemaScope. If there hadn’t been a studio mandate to deliver IMAX and 3D versions of Blade Runner 2049 would you have still embraced them as creative choices? It doesn’t seem like they can all be equally valid to the intended 2.39/2D version, rather their effects can only be mitigated by protecting the sensor’s lookaround so the extra headroom doesn’t create awkward compositions, the stereoscopic effects can be dialed in to not clash with the intended planar image, etc., which speaks directly to the questions raised in the original post.

            in reply to: Question about Modified Aspect Ratios #238269
            Frank
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              There isn’t a uniform aspect ratio of 1.43:1 for every version because then IMAX would have nothing to sell, since the brand is all about the idea of a special, uniquely high quality theatrical experience that justifies a surcharge on ticket prices. A lot of people who saw Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning in IMAX expressed disappointment that it was letterboxed 2.39, for instance.

              in reply to: Low ASA on Alexa Classic #217959
              Frank
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                As you say, it really is about the trade-off with how quickly the highlights will clip and your ability to bring that information back in post if need be. At 200 ISO on the Alexa Classic I think you’ll have something like two stops fewer above middle grey than you would at 800 ISO? There’s also the practicality of shooting at lower sensitivity and how much light you’ll need to get an exposure. If I were shooting on a very controlled set where I could pump in as much light as needed, I was committing to a specific exposure with very little allowance in development because I was confident nothing would clip, and I wanted an extremely clean image, that’s when I would shoot at 200 ISO.

                in reply to: Lenses with undercorrected spherical abberation #216078
                Frank
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                  It’s surprising to hear that you wanted even more spherical aberration than something like the Canon FDs could offer. Those are extremely ‘glowy’ lenses wide open. If that wasn’t enough then I’d consider using diffusion.

                  in reply to: Sicario CG ultra photorealistic CG and VFX work #216047
                  Frank
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                    I remember reading about the Bridge of the Americas sequence for the first time and it completely blowing my mind when Roger said it was shot in a parking lot. The effect really is seamless, even after knowing how it was done or seeing before and afters you completely accept the location for what it’s presented as on-screen.

                    Frank
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                      To me the line cross works because there’s a change in subjectivity between the shots, first you’re seeing him as the girl on the bed sees him, and then you’re seeing him as he sees himself in the mirror. Switching his screen position removes the sense of the girl looking at him and makes it entirely about him looking at himself, a private moment away from her. Their orientation toward each other is also retained in the mirror, the point of focus within the shot, which contributes toward not making it feel disruptive. In both shots she’s still “to his left” on a 2D plane.

                      in reply to: High ISO for shooting daylight exterior #215857
                      Frank
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                        Yeah, the dynamic range is redistributed toward underexposure when you lower ISO, which is often counterintuitive for the bright situations where you’d do so. The reasons to do it rather than maintaining more headroom at base ISO and using ND filters as needed would be that you want the highlights to clip sooner or you want less noise.

                        Frank
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                          What are the three lenses you have and what focal length do you want for the fourth one?

                          in reply to: Films that light and compose faces very well #215448
                          Frank
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                            Tak Fujimoto’s work with Jonathan Demme where the actors are staring straight down the barrel of the camera, Peter Suschitzky’s films with David Cronenberg and the use of short-sided framing and wide lenses to create a sense of the actor ‘leering’ into the camera, Steven Spielberg’s moving masters that frequently go from close-ups to wides and back again, would all be worth studying for composition.

                            in reply to: In camera lens corrections #215349
                            Frank
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                              When you say ‘lens corrections’ what exactly do you mean? Stopping them down? Something in post?

                              in reply to: On cleaner anamorphics #215099
                              Frank
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                                I’m not saying it’s of tantamount importance but I’m just saying it’s there as a theoretical technicality (an ironic one at that) and it doesn’t have to be the master anamorphics, it could be any 2x anamorphic really.

                                What I was trying to say is that it’s worth considering these questions as part of a holistic system (the desired end result, the limitations of the production itself) and assigning relative weights to them in deciding what you want to prioritize. For instance, if the data rate of the 8K anamorphic mode is less than that of the 8K spherical mode, how and when does that become important and what is it more important than? If I asked that question and found out that the data rate was of extreme importance to the production, my next question would be why we were shooting in 8K with an extreme paucity of recording media and letting this be the deciding factor in whether or not to go anamorphic or spherical. Why couldn’t I just shoot 2.39 spherical in a lower resolution instead? And then maybe the director would tell me that the distributor had an 8K mandate, and that would open up a new question, and so on.

                                in reply to: On cleaner anamorphics #215095
                                Frank
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                                  Realistically any production that could afford a V-Raptor and a set of Master Anamorphics wouldn’t be so stretched for budget that the data rate would become the deciding factor in something as essential to the look of the film as the choice of lenses. If you wanted to shoot 2.39 but were agnostic on whether or not it should be spherical or anamorphic, would the data rate really be what pushed you toward anamorphic before every other characteristic of the lenses themselves?

                                  The width of the sensor is to some extent arbitrary, you could match the field of view of the Master Anamorphics with spherical lenses by using wider focal lengths. The widest Master Anamorphic is 28mm, the equivalent field of view on Super 35 would be around 14mm. As David said, if you wanted to also match the depth of field there are a number of wide aperture 14mm lenses.

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