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  • in reply to: How to be a qualified cinematographer #215196
    dmullenasc
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      Most of us work our way up in budgets so it’s partly a matter of scaling up over time in terms of crew, equipment, schedules, ambition, etc. I shot a dozen short films on my own where I was the entire crew, then I shot over 20 short films in film school with a tiny crew, then I shot over 20 small features before I even joined the union. It’s rare that someone makes a huge leap right at the start. But even if you do, you often have an experienced crew to support you.

      in reply to: LUTs #215195
      dmullenasc
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        In other words It’s a LUT for the initial color correction, not for the grading, Is It correct?

        Isn’t “grading”, “timing”, and “color-correction” all the same term? The only differentiation today in digital is whether it is for dailies or for the final master. Sometimes VFX elements are pre-graded, or plates for process work.

        Camera LUTs are mainly for on set displays and for dailies. Whether they get used as a starting point for the final color-correction just depends on how the colorist and cinematographer like to work. Some might start from scratch from the raw files but then throw on the camera LUT now & then to see how close or far they are.

        in reply to: LUTs #215187
        dmullenasc
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          You need some sort of LUT to convert a raw/log signal for display on a monitor, whether Rec.709 or P3 — most personal LUTs are close to the standard Rec.709 LUT, just tweaked either for personal taste or for a specific look.

          in reply to: Choosing between 5600 and 3200 #215170
          dmullenasc
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            Also the color science behind a particular camera design will have an effect on color, as well as any LUTs applied, etc.

            in reply to: Choosing between 5600 and 3200 #215169
            dmullenasc
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              Technically you’d have a little less noise at 5600K because sensors are naturally close to daylight-balance – the blue channel has to be boosted after raw conversion to make the image balanced for 3200K.

              However, regarding color reproduction, that is more an issue of the lighting technology involved rather than the color temperature. True daylight and tungsten are continuous spectrum sources whereas LEDs have spikes of color at different frequencies, some have more color phosphors / spikes with smaller gaps, creating more accurate color reproduction.

              in reply to: Amount of light and exposure #215163
              dmullenasc
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                Yes, if you go from 100 foot-candles to 200 foot-candles, you’d have twice as much light so would have to close down by 1-stop to maintain the same exposure. Or cut the ISO by half. Or close the shutter angle by half.

                in reply to: Contrast ratio #215157
                dmullenasc
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                  I’ve never used contrast ratios because that requires some conversion math… but in terms of measuring and noting the shadow level, if that’s done, it’s more about matching coverage. You light the wider shot by eye and create the contrast you want, but sometimes when you start covering a scene, you might take notes on the shadow level versus the key for matching purposes, especially if you are shooting VFX elements for compositing.

                  in reply to: On cleaner anamorphics #215098
                  dmullenasc
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                    Of course everything is on a spectrum, it’s not like the choice is between anamorphic lenses with zero anamorphic artifacts versus the funkiest, oldest, more flarey and distorted anamorphic lenses ever made.  But it seems to me that one would want some anamorphic artifacts, even if subtle, if you were going to pick anamorphic — if all you want is a 2.40 frame, there are easier, simpler, cheaper ways of getting there.

                    in reply to: On cleaner anamorphics #215092
                    dmullenasc
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                      The only reason I am “split” on the subject, as you say, is that if you reduce every optical indication that something was shot on anamorphic lenses, then why shoot on anamorphic lenses? In the pre-D.I. days of film prints, a 35mm anamorphic production used a larger negative area than Super-35 cropped for a 2.40 image plus every generation was contacted printed.  And there was somewhat less depth of field on average compared to Super-35 due to the longer focal lengths used.

                      But now with digital and larger format cameras, none of those are issues; even with 4K cinema release, the current digital cinema cameras with spherical lenses deliver enough resolution, and shallow-focus isn’t hard to get with fast spherical lenses.  So that leaves using anamorphic lenses for their unusual optical qualities.

                      in reply to: Projector ‘poor mans process’ #215009
                      dmullenasc
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                        The focal length you use also depends on how much of the plate you’ll be cropping into. With car scenes, usually there is a 1:1 ratio because the edges of the screen are mostly blocked by the car body, plus in the days of 35mm 1.85, your plate was probably shot and projected 4-perf 35mm full aperture but your camera’s 1.85 frame lines were slightly cropping in on this. So you’d use the same focal length for the plate and the stage shot.  But if you need to crop into the projected image more, you should shoot the plate on a slightly wider focal length.

                        in reply to: Dynamic Range #214975
                        dmullenasc
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                          The thing with dynamic range is that you don’t always need a lot of it… until you do! You may be rolling on a second take when suddenly outside the window the sun comes out and hits a white car parked across the street.

                          in reply to: Purpose of film copies release #214938
                          dmullenasc
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                            It’s just the nature of additive versus subtractive color — if you want to make a primary color deeper and more saturated in a film print, it needs more dye so it gets denser, letting less light through. You want to make a primary color more more saturated with a digital projector you let more of the pure red, green, or blue light through. You can go even further with RGB  lasers as a light source.

                            in reply to: Phantom Thread Cafe Scene #214921
                            dmullenasc
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                              He looks lit by a softened HMI coming from the right through another window, but whether the window in the middle of the frame needed ND gel is hard to tell – it looks sort of misty/foggy and overcast out there so maybe no ND gel would be needed.  In a location like this, you might have hard acrylic ND gel panels made for each window that can be quickly slapped up — or removed as it gets darker outside.

                              in reply to: Phantom Thread Cafe Scene #214918
                              dmullenasc
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                                “Overlight the cafe and bring it down in post” is not how that works, what you are asking is if they lit the interior brightly enough to get closer to the exterior level so there was less of an exposure difference. At that point, they’d stop down the lens and/or use ND filters to expose the shot for the brightness they wanted, they wouldn’t need to bring it down in post. The truth is that if the background is very bright, you’d want to expose to retain some detail — leaving it very bright for post to then darken it back to normal risks having clipping (though this movie was shot in film, which has more latitude for overexposure.)

                                It’s an age-old question, how to retain details in a bright background through a window. Do you do it by bringing up the interior? Do you do it by adding ND gel to the windows? (You’d still need to add some interior light because if the room is mainly lit by window light and you darken all of them with ND gel, then the interior gets darker too, it’s just that because it’s darkened with ND gel, it takes less light level to bring up the interior, i.e. small LEDs rather than bigger HMIs.) Do you wait for a less bright time of day or weather condition rather than use ND gels?

                                Now if the actor is very close to the windows and thus receiving a lot of light from them, then the difference in brightness from exterior to interior might not be as bad you think, some white cards reflecting some of the sunlight back at the actor or minimal LED lighting might be enough to add some detail to the shadows.

                                dmullenasc
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                                  If you shoot raw, then color temperature is usually just metadata. If you record log, then probably it would be best to shoot at whatever the color temperature of your primary light sources are for a somewhat neutral color image.

                                  I would consider the tonal scale value of whatever colors you use for sets and costumes — it’s one reason why old b&w movies used to dress people in browns and grays, it was just easier to judge contrast by eye that way.

                                  Over the century there has been all sorts of lighting styles for b&w, from the classic noir-ish era of the 1940s that most people think of, to the softer tones of 1930s films, and the more natural look of 1960s movies from Europe. I don’t think there is a right or wrong approach, it’s just that you want to think in terms of grayscale because sometimes a low-contrast image looks nice in color but too washed-out in b&w unless there are some tones in the subject that add contrast back in (for example, think of a foggy day with a man in a dark coat, which can look nice.) It can also be harder to direct the eye to the actors and separate them from the background which is why you want to think of tones and how that face is framed against the background. You don’t have to resort to backlighting, simply putting a dark edge of the subject against a highlight or vice-versa might be enough.

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