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  • #214599
    Roger Deakins
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      Max,

      The photo is interesting! I had forgotten I had this rig on the ceiling. The main lighting was the Par lamps coming through the windows but I did have this rig for any bounce I might need. I used 2K Blondes as I wanted a wide spread of the lamp on the bounce material and, therefore, a very soft source. The lamps were either bouncing off unbleached muslin that was laid on the floor or off 4′ x 4′ sheets. I had this rig, rather than lamps on stands, as there were many so people in the scene and I didn’t want my lighting to get in the way. Besides that, the lamps could aim over the extras and bounce off muslin close to the wall.

      In a case like this I will ask for a rig to be put up knowing it might only be necessary for one or two angles or even not at all. But it is better to have it than struggle during the shooting day with lamps on stands.

      • This reply was modified 2 years, 3 months ago by Roger Deakins.
      #214598
      Mike
      Participant

        This photo has already been circulated around the world, don’t worry about copyright.

        Photo is not from the film production company.

        #214596
        vaughan_dop
        Participant

          Hi everyone! So, with only 30 mins allowed in the shooting schedule to set this, we moved all the tables in the library to get our hero table directly under the pendant fitting (thanks Roger!) and thankfully the frosted glass shades provided quite a pleasant look from the get go. I added an LED panel to the centre of the pendant with some diff and CTO, threw a subtle backlight onto the kids with a 300w Mizar on the railings above, then filled with the Arri 2K bounced off a Skylite a few tables out of shot.

          Given an extra person and another half hour I’d have got some ND taped over the background windows – but that said, filling out the existing tungsten(ish) sources gave the warmth the scene needed.

          #214595

          In reply to: Aggressive Color

          dmullenasc
          Participant

            Roger has used strong colored lighting on occasion, there was the blue-lit face of Daniel Craig in the car in Shanghai (Skyfall), the orange light of Las Vegas and the magenta light when K sees the large hologram advertisement of Joi (Blade Runner 2049), etc.

            It comes down to story (the color is emotionally or symbolically motivated, or plot-driven), whether the colored light is naturally motivated (it would be odd if someone was right next to a red neon sign and not have red light on them), and taste.

            Sometimes an image is very strong visually because the filmmaker wants to mark that moment in the viewer’s mind.

             

            #214594

            In reply to: Huge thanks to Roger

            Mike
            Participant

              Rusalen,

              I am so pleased that your film has been nominated, you must be very excited by that news.  Once you have started a film, never give up finishing it doesn’t matter how long it takes.  Congratulations and remember this just the beginning. Wonderful news.

              #214567

              Topic: Aggressive Color

              in forum Lighting
              cobfilms
              Participant

                Hi Sir Roger Deakins (and others),

                My coworker and I were having a debate after watching an interview/breakdown for the cinematography from the new show Beef shot by Larkin Seiple. Below is a still from a timelapse process shot done near the end of the show. You can find the full shot here as well. There’s just a hodgepodge of colors all over, which honestly is pretty on style for the show, which doesn’t shy away from mixing color temps, or even just using multiple aggressive colors to light the subjects. We also thought of another shot (put below) from Marcell Rev’s Euphoria. That show also has plenty of insane color or camera moves throughout, but the still below we thought was actually a really good use of red. It’s still very prominent, but still toned down with the cool white light surrounding it.

                It’s easy to point at flashy colors and say, “Hey that doesn’t serve the story it doesn’t work!” But you can also have something that does serve the story, but it’s still too much. From the other threads and what I’ve read I know you are much more restrained in your use of color, and even find it a nuisance. But color, and aggressive use at that, can have its place. If this line of what’s considered distracting is different for everyone is it just something you need to make a personal decision on as an artist? How do you look at your work with a fresh eye and make sure your work is all in service of the story? If the lighting or camerawork is “intense” is that always a bad thing? There have been entire painting movements based around shifting the focus to technique or style or color over the story attached to the piece. Or is that not a fair comparison?

                I would love to hear everyone’s thoughts! Thank you so much for your time!

                 

                #211827
                Daniel Keeble
                Participant

                  Hi Roger, I would like to share a small collection of screen-grabs from a new short film I shot last weekend called ‘The Night Blooms’. I don’t often shoot ‘low key’ but I kept things really simple and relied on one practical lamp for the key (due to the story, and space limitations).

                  I wrote and directed the film, and provided the cinematography. I used some lovely vintage lenses and I’m really happy with the results.

                  Not really looking for  any opinions really, just thought I’d share. As so many other filmmakers around the world, I’m influenced by the simplicity in your work.

                  hi-res images can be viewed here: https://www.arkpictures.co.uk/films/the-night-blooms  (these jpgs appear a little crushed in the blacks)

                  thank you for your time

                  Dan

                  #211337
                  andy989
                  Participant

                    Hi all

                    Not posted since the new threads so my old posts have gone. Back with another minimal lighting short that i shot recently. I like to challenge myself to the least amount of lights possible and this one is a new personal best.  Heavily inspired by Roger’s work on 1917 (lighting methods, not camera) I tried my best to shoot under cloud. Given the extremely tiny budget, i thought id let the location do all the work and prey for cloud. All the exterior battle scenes were shot with no lights, just daylight under cloud and some negative fill here and there. All the interior shots of the woman in the house were done with no lights, just a large window, bounce and control. The only light used in the whole film is a single Apeture bulb placed in a lantern in the bunker scene. Pretty happy with how it turned out considering the budget (sub £5k).
                    Have to thank Roger and his openness with knowledge that gives people like me the confidence to not overthink things and follow your instincts!









                    #197266
                    Max A.
                    Participant

                      Hello Mr. Deakins and all the Dp’s over the forum! I hope you Mr. Deakins and Mrs. James are well.
                      I read that you maybe will prepare something for the “Looking at lighting” section about ‘EoL’, I’m so curious about your light rig in the cinema hall (I saw that you used big rings of Astera bulbs).

                      I would like to ask you, if it is possible, what did you use in the projection cabin for this scene (I attach a youtube part of the scene and frames). I think it was a tricky location cause it is so small, with tall visual elements that can cover light, with also light walls, and there are quite enough cuts and angles in the scene.

                      I suppose that the “main” motivation comes from above, from the florescent fixtures, which seem around 4000k (as seen in the first image), but depending on the angles seems to me that you adjust things to have the “right” shape.
                      In the first frame, the fixtures appear not so high from the floor (I suppose around 2.50 mt.) so the falloff should be quite drastic.
                      When you moved inside the room did you adjust the fixtures to have a soft “pool” behind the two projectors? It seems to me that light “washes” a bit more walls in that cut/angle and gives shape to the subject in the shadowed foreground; furthermore seems to me that you raised up the fixtures a bit.

                      Did you used also some Astera tubes on the floor to wrap faces and mimic the shape of the ceiling fixtures in some situations, like when they talk through the projector or when they do the ending part of the dialogue? Or maybe some bounce surface to catch existing light and shape the faces?

                      Whatever you’ve done, it’s all invisible in a very small location full of surfaces where as soon as you turn something on it starts bouncing everywhere and being visible. And all with superb continuity.
                      Small locations are my nightmare 😅.

                      I want to thank you first of all for your availability and for your time. I’m sorry if sometimes I’m so specific but I like to impersonate myself as dp when I look at a scene, and that location with all those cuts would have confused me a bit. I have the big privilege of being able to ask you how you managed the scene and learn from your words.
                      Last summer, I had a scene with a similar location (smaller still actually) but it had dark walls and fewer cuts to “accommodate” and to maintain continuity.
                      I apologize for my bad English. Thank you again, Mr. Deakins.

                      I wish you a peaceful day.
                      Max.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-7GquLUzcM




                      Francis S25
                      Participant

                        Dear Roger and everyone else in this forums section,

                        My name is Francis and I’m currently writing my BA undergrad dissertation on Borderland film and TV. Two of my primary film sources for the project are No Country for Old Men and Sicario. I loved watching your recent GQ interview and am glad to discover your website.

                        I’m fascinated by the choices of location in these films and your approach to establishing shots. I know that you love shooting broad, barren and open vistas and wanted to ask you some brief, specific questions on your use of establishing shots and locations.

                        1. How and why did you pay attention to fences and walls, particularly in relation to characters?

                        2. Why are establishing shots in Sicario shot more aerially and dynamically than those in No Country?

                        3. Finally- how have you approached shooting the ‘urban’ as opposed to the desert? (Why motels, caravan parks, bus stations, housing estates etc.?)

                        If you could respond- no matter how briefly or even if you would like to focus on one specific question- it would be greatly appreciated. Anyone else roaming these forums can feel free to chime in too.

                        Many thanks for your amazing contributions to this weird and wonderful world of cinema,

                        -Francis

                        Four of my favourite shots below for reference:

                        #214585
                        Rusalen
                        Participant

                          Hi Roger and James . Hello everyone on the forum. I hope you are fine In any case, I don’t want to brag. If you think this is not for here please remove it . I just felt compelled to share this with you. because thanks to you and everything I’ve read on this forum over the years. I made this film, of course there is still work to be done on it, but we didn’t have that time because we were chasing deadlines, mostly we did it with minimal time and resources. He already won a second prize in my country in a contest created by a YouTube group. Then I was told that he won second place because the son of the person who organized the contest starred in the movie with the first prize. That is why my film was in 2nd place. And it was a small cash prize, which suited me better :). Now it has been selected in one of the biggest festivals in America.I want to say thank you for helping me get this far and it means a lot to me. Of course, there is a long way to feature and full-length cinema will never be able to get there. I am truly grateful to you for everything I have learned from you. Of course, it will be very grateful if you can accept any comments, advice and criticism.

                          PS: I posted the death scene with the question that Mike answered and I was supported. When it was still raw

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                          #214584
                          dmullenasc
                          Participant

                            In theory there wouldn’t be much difference shooting under completely red lighting and under white lighting with a red filter. However sometimes darkrooms have faint tiny lights on machines that would give you a small non-red spot of light.

                            The main issue to consider is loss of sharpness when everything is red due to the fact that only 25% of the Bayer filter is red — plus your camera may be recording in something other than 4:4:4.

                            Softness under red light is an issue even when shooting film.

                            I haven’t tested this myself, but some have suggested shooting under white light or some color light that still allows information to be recorded in the other two channels, maybe magenta or orange light (or filter) and then correcting the image to red in post color-correction. In theory, this may help you retain some sharpness. Worth testing.

                            #214580
                            Shea
                            Participant

                              Hello,

                              I hope you are all doing well! I am supposed to go to university next year and was wondering if anyone knows trustworthy scholarships for film students or anyone in general. I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, but i’m sure there were at least a few of you who went to film school! Thank you for your help.

                              – Shea

                              #214573
                              dmullenasc
                              Participant

                                This was shot closer to f/11. But keep in mind, this was not an explosion but a continuous fire so I didn’t have to light the surrounding area to f/11, there was no before and after moment.

                                #214566

                                Topic: Black and White 16mm

                                in forum Lighting
                                Jacob W.
                                Participant

                                  Hey forum – anyone have tips for shooting black and white 16mm ifilm n daylight?

                                  I’ve shot with color 16mm but never black and white. Didn’t know if there are any big points to look out for when dealing with B/W that differ from color.

                                   

                                  Thanks

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