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Making the jump from corporate to narrative (6 replies and 20 comments)

addfletch
2 months ago
addfletch 2 months ago

I'm currently working in-house as a DP at a longstanding British banking institution. After nearly four years I need a change, both in terms of my artistry and my sanity. Before I took this salaried position I was freelance and did a lot of documentary and fashion work, with the odd short film or music video. Now my career feels stuck and I don't know what to about it.

I want to work with like minded people, back on location and actual sets as opposed to dealing with suits, shooting talking heads in meeting rooms. I'm considerably unhappy and feel I have so much more to offer the industry. Any advice would be welcomed. Many thanks.

The Byre
2 months ago
The Byre 2 months ago

Fortune smiles on the brave!

The World is full of wage-slaves.  I wanted to be a wage slave, but nobody wanted me as a wage slave!  Him?  That fool?  We'll pass!

I got remarks like "You should have been here at eight o'clock!"

"Why?  What happened?"

I won't give you my life story, but because I always had to fly by the seat of my pants, I was able to retire before I was 50 and set up my own operation running a post-prod facility and recording studio.  We are now moving into making movies 'just for fun' (which is why I am here and learning!)

On a side note, I have attended so many courses and seminars on putting a movie together and NOTHING, but nothing is as useful as Roger's breakdown of how to light a scene - look at the train scene for Jesse James - that has totally changed how we are going to approach a scene in our first movie.  If I could shoot a scene that turns out only a quarter as good, I could die a happy bunny!  (As for 2049, don't even go there - nobody could touch that!)

I'll post the rest tomorrow - duty and the wife calls!  

Mike
2 months ago

Oh really! Hmm! You are a lucky man.

The Byre
2 months ago
The Byre 2 months ago

And now the rest -

There is nothing to stop you from picking up a decent camera and a set of lenses and making that killer documentary. The World is your oyster! There are so many stories to tell! So much to do!

There are stories everywhere and in the most unlikely places! One of the guys working here made a programme about his own father. It became a series and a book and he is now working on a second series
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/jan/14/fixing-dad-documentary-diabetes-low-carbohydrate»

Everywhere I look around me, I see stories. Bands on the road, sleeping in their vans, touring America, touring Europe. Some of them are just crazy people.

Go undercover and get a job in a nuclear power station being taken apart - that is a whole money-making scam waiting to be exposed! Wear a GoPro and film all those people getting high wages for doing nothing! Ask yourself why!

Go to donkey sanctuaries and film what is really going on! Tip - try offering them a home for their donkeys and horses and you will be told that each and every animal is so ill that they cannot be moved - but they still need lots of money to cope with all those poor ponies and donkeys! Ask yourself why!

Go to Berlin and film the Polizie just ignoring drug deals in the middle of the city. Nigerian gangs dealing in 'Baggies of White' and 'Big-H' in broad daylight and nobody does a thing! Ask yourself why!

Take your car to any car dealership and punch a little hole in a vacuum hose so that it loses power and watch them diagnose a blocked particle filter almost every time! Ask yourself why!

Look at the career of Matthew Heineman - he just picked up a camera and got going! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Heineman»

If you don't want to make documentaries, get together with others and first learn how to write a movie script and then make a movie about one of the above subjects - or something else! Whatever bugs you!

Just remember - fortune smiles on the brave!

Mike
2 months ago

All very interesting. Best to contact BBC Scotland or better still BBC radio, they could use some leads. If it’s any good, BBC TV will follow it up but it must appear in the newspapers first, let the “flatfoots” stick their neck out first to take care of copyright issues.

The Byre
2 months ago

Ever since the BBC offered me £37 for a piece that they had commissioned, I keep as far away from them as possible!

Mike
2 months ago

£37.00, that’s a fortune! That must have been their “scoup” rate. Most people get a coffee and donut!

Mike
2 months ago

Shud read Scoop. B....... computers.

The Byre
2 months ago

The News of the World used to pay me £200 for a phone-in tip leading to a short article, £400 for a 200-word article or funny piece and up to £50k for a front-page scoop.

Mike
2 months ago

Then you have to wait 4 months for the loot. Btw, 50K doesn’t sound bad, that will pay for 2 weeks in Bermuda with drinks ofcourse and a dozen birds!

The Byre
2 months ago

Landing a deal like that is extremely complicated and most of the money goes to those putting their necks on the line. My role was just as a facilitator and often the expense was greater than the 10% or 20% we got as an agency.

The Byre
2 months ago
The Byre 2 months ago

Something very weird is going on with the 'Set Stuff' section here!

Mike
2 months ago

Can you be more specific Andrew, everything seems to be working ok.

Roger Deakins
2 months ago
Roger Deakins 2 months ago

Yes! Weird! And fortune does favor the brave!

Mike
2 months ago

“He who dares, wins” is the Motto for running any business otherwise you will go under. Just ask “Al Capone” he seemed to do alright for himself!

Hans
2 months ago
Hans 2 months ago

At the bottom of this page I see two "pending" posts supposedly written by me.
The posts repeat the message above by Roger. 

Unless I was sleep-writing tonight, those aren't my messages. 

Mike
2 months ago

You must have a phantom admirer! Robert is investigating.

Hans
2 months ago

Ha! I have many of those.

Robert Dempsey
2 months ago
Robert Dempsey 2 months ago

If these are not you post I suggest you go in and change your password ASAP if not sooner. That is the only way someone else can post for you.

Robert

The Byre
2 months ago

Robert - even your posts are now doubled and have the 'pending' marker! This only seems to happen on the 'set-stuff' section!

The Byre
2 months ago

Even stranger, it now appears as if I posted your last statement!

Robert Dempsey
2 months ago

I am seeing that as well. WIll have to look at it later this morning. may have to start this forum over fro a new one. that is now a normal thing at all.
who is Hans

Robert Dempsey
2 months ago

Byre I am not seeing my post as double here So I post this one to test it

The Byre
2 months ago

It may be browser-dependent - I'm on Chrome. But somewhere in the various plug-ins for set-stuff there may be a difference to all the other sections. It's been a while since I had to bend my few remaining brain cells around forum software!

Mike
2 months ago

“Hans” is a member from Amsterdam.

Robert Dempsey
2 months ago

LOL Byre, I just checked it a few ago saw on double post from you corrected that and looking more, and all seemed to be correct now. There are no errors in the script that I can find anyway.

Robert Dempsey
2 months ago

Clear your Browser cache's they do get loaded and need cleaning. I do mine almost every day.

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