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Question about this shot in No country (3 replies and 4 comments)

Rob18
6 months ago
Rob18 6 months ago

Hello Roger I would like to ask you couple of things  about these shots

 You mentioned you bounce from outside the window on the right an HMI. and used some ND in the back window. Was having the right window some ND as well ?  

The HMI was it basically to lift the levels on their faces and balance with the exterior right?  How many stops of difference you wanted between the light in the faces and the light outside? 

 

 

 

 

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Rob18
6 months ago
Rob18 6 months ago

And also I would like to ask you how did you light this shot, a what T Stop you shot it? 

Best Regards and thank you so much Roger. 

 

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Roger Deakins
6 months ago
Roger Deakins 6 months ago

The gas station was lit from the side to balance the face to the exterior. I still wanted the exterior to be very bright and I not trying to expose it 'correctly'. I judged that balance by eye so I can only imagine the exterior was around two or three stops over. The second shot was lit with a direct 18K HMI on a small crane reaching over a neighbor's roof. I remember shooting this at something like a 2.8 on 200 ASA stock.

Rob18
6 months ago
Rob18 6 months ago

Thank you so much Roger. I'm planning to shoot a very short test in a location facing north and I wanna have a soft light coming through the window and I will add some diffusion on the window. My question is if I can get something like this shot from the goldfinch with only natural light in a sunny day. What you think ? Or should find the way to light the diffusion a little to make it brighter  ? 

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KyleCamerer
6 months ago

Hope you don't mind if I chime in, but I think your best bet to get consistent results for a shot like this so, if the budget permits, would be a big ultra bounce rig outside at an angle that covers the entire window to block the ambient and bounce light into it from the ground. That will give you the softest wrapy light. You can control and shape it even more with sheers and curtains. Keep in mind the color of the walls, floors, etc at your location. Production design is very important for this shot though. If you look at the reference frame, nothing in the room is white other than the books on the table which also helps with a little bouncy fill

KyleCamerer
6 months ago

a cheaper, smaller crew way if you can't support a 12x oustide is get few floppy ultra bounce and tent off the rest of the window with a couple black bed sheets or whatever you can get a hold of

carloscfrias
6 months ago

If the windows are north orientated why would you want to put difussion on them? Skylight is already soft, is the biggest light you're gonna get. I think the ideas here are great but if you are like me and don't world with budgets for such a set-up, I would try to shoot with natural light and maybe some fill light bouncing a fixture inside against the part of the celling nearer to the window if it's possible to hide it.

carloscfrias
6 months ago

Well, thinking again... The bounce against the celling may screw up the contrast, so maybe only natural light would do

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