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Lighting Throught Windows (22 replies and 8 comments)

TomRiechart
1 month ago
TomRiechart 1 month ago

Dear Roger and friends.

I need your advice, I want to soften windows so as not to see what's outside but still create a beam of light.
I found out that Roger uses Hampshire or Opal In similar situations, Is it most appropriate for this situation? I'm just going to use 2K Tungsten on each window individually so I want to understand if the softening on the window won't ruin the beam of light.

I saw what you wrote here but I would love to understand my case based on the intensity of the lights I have and is there anything better for this case.

Thanks you very much and be safe.

Tom Riechart

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TomRiechart
1 month ago
TomRiechart 1 month ago

And if you know the exact number of gel I would like to know. 

I saw there is a half Hampshire or light opal and full of course I try to understand witch one I need to get good result. 

Thank you again

 

Roger Deakins
1 month ago
Roger Deakins 1 month ago

Each situation is different. I would not have been able to light that shot with a 2K, for instance, but it might well be enough for a small set. A Hampshire might be too dense for the effect you want using a 2K so you might want to frost the glass with a spray of dirty water rather than with a gel.

simon m
1 month ago

Do you have a suggestion for what to use to dirty up the water besides, well, dirt?
Thanks.

TomRiechart
1 month ago
TomRiechart 1 month ago

Roger Thanks for the quick reply.

I would love to show you the whole set of lighting and tell me what you think.
Today I went to a rental company and saw the OPAL FROST 420 and it looked transparent enough to work with a lighting system I added here

I would like to know your opinion on the lighting system and whether FROST of any kind can fit here.

The result I want to get is beautiful sun penetration in addition to the soft lighting of the sky

As you can see in the floor plan the 2K is very close to window and I will add a curtain that restrict the window and I will light it only in the middle of the window because I know I cant fill the entire window with a light beam so I try to trick it with a curtains.

Thank you

Tom Riechart

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Roger Deakins
1 month ago
Roger Deakins 1 month ago

The plan look good but the direct lamp seems a little close to the window if you want a sharp beam.

TomRiechart
1 month ago

I understand what you're saying, is it true, if I keep the 2K away a little you think it will work? And they'll be on SPOT, can that work? Because I have no way to bring stronger lights than these.

But do you think HALF OPAL FROST or HALF HAMPSHIRE are suitable for this situation?

And again Roger really thanks for answering

simon m
1 month ago
simon m 1 month ago

Roger - you mention

"you might want to frost the glass with a spray of dirty water rather than with a gel."

Do you know of any tricks for making such 'dirty water' that works well?

Thanks.

Roger Deakins
1 month ago
Roger Deakins 1 month ago

Just mix in a very little grey paint. Even some soil! Anything! Dirt!

TomRiechart
1 month ago
TomRiechart 1 month ago

Hi Roger, Do you think that Half Opal Frost or Half Hampshire are suitable for this situation? And I will work with the 2K on Spot.

Thanks

Roger Deakins
1 month ago
Roger Deakins 1 month ago

Don't forget that when you spot a lamp the beam becomes softer around the edges. I would look at the effect with the lamp and no diffusion. The window might be dirty and you may get away with it as it is.

TomRiechart
1 month ago
TomRiechart 1 month ago

Roger Thanks for your time, it really helps, I'll check it out.

Thank you

TomRiechart
4 weeks ago
TomRiechart 4 weeks ago

Hello Roger, I have update about my production and I have new question.

We go to shoot in studio and build a house, we are going to light up the house with 4 M40 and 5K TUNGSTEN on each window. Do you think in this way we will be able to get beautiful sun penetrations? And do you think FROST can be used in this case? 

Thank you

Tom Riechart

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TomRiechart
4 weeks ago

The Hmi is Diffuse with grid cloth

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