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high noon sun beach (7 replies)

Wouter
5 months ago
Wouter 5 months ago

if using the sun as backlight for a medium close up is no option, could it work to block the overhead sun on the subject and use a mirror to redirect some beams so that they hit the face from a slightly lower angle? Then some half soft frost between mirror and subject to smooth it out, just a touch?

The interview is only going to take about 30-45min max so the sun won't move that much (it's around noon).

Could it work?

cameronrad
5 months ago
cameronrad 5 months ago

For lightweight setups I've seen a lot of stills people and some video people use a big sunbuster umbrella or a scrim to diffuse and then use a soft bounce. Similar to this:

https://www.jonkline.com/light-outside/»

Also being at the beach you may have some ambient fill provided by the sand. I think a mirror might be too harsh. Sunbounce has some good products and examples https://www.sunbounce.com/en/home.html

Wouter
5 months ago
Wouter 5 months ago

I don't like to diffuse it too much. It kills the subject/background light ratio and the quality of light (especially on a beach without natural cover) would look "odd".

Half soft frost would be as far as I would go. Just to take the edge off without killing the ratios nor the the hard direct sunlight quality.

I was toying with the idea to heavily diffuse or block the direct overhead sun and use a mirror into a large soft frost to redirect and slightly diffuse the light. In theory it should work, but maybe having a "low angled sun" on a summer day, might look a bit weird...

here's an illustration of what I mean:

https://www.rogerdeakins.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/high-noon-sun.png
Wouter
5 months ago
Wouter 5 months ago

an alternative could be to block the direct sun and use a mirror to make it more of a backlight/hairlight and keep the direct light off the forehead/eye sockets/nose to avoid those nasty shadows.

Use ambient light and sand bounce and some negative fill or ultrabounce to give some shape to the face.

 

https://www.rogerdeakins.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/high-noon-sun_2.png
Wouter
5 months ago
Wouter 5 months ago

alternatively use 2 mirrors to get a larger surface

https://www.rogerdeakins.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/high-noon-sun_3.png
Roger Deakins
5 months ago
Roger Deakins 5 months ago

Your theory is fine but it is getting quite complicated. On a windy day you might have issues and the mirrors will still need to be quite large. Pity you have to shoot at mid day.

Wouter
5 months ago
Wouter 5 months ago

Yes wind is my biggest concern, further increasing the complexity.

I'm going to treat it as a backup plan.. in case they really insist having the sea as the background.

Alternatively I might suggest the subjects bring hats and just use the bounce material to create a little bit of dimension.

Roger Deakins
5 months ago
Roger Deakins 5 months ago

The hats idea sounds more practical and it should also look good.

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