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Creating a fake moon (6 replies)

Patrick Walsh
2 weeks ago
Patrick Walsh 2 weeks ago

Hello,

I am trying to figure out how to create a fake moon with minimal lights. The scene is in a country park and one of the major shots I want to express the full moonlight is where the main character walks past an opening of a pathway across a large plain of grass. I only have a basic 3 pack LED kit at the moment, so I wondered what sort of light would be best? and most economical for this night shoot.

 

P.s. I have looked at Arri L-series lights so far, but I have no experience with them and as it is a cost just to practice with them. It would be great to know first hand from someone.

dmullenasc
2 weeks ago
dmullenasc 2 weeks ago

Shoot day-for-night? Keep in mind that real moonlight falls across the whole landscape.

To create moonlight on a large open space requires a pretty big light backed far away and perhaps up on a condor if you want a backlit angle.

Without that, you'd probably have to side-light the field with multiple lights in a row, so again it depends on how big the area is, how deep do you want the light to go, etc.  It helps, in terms of limiting the area to light, to pick a spot with a natural barrier in the background like a row of trees or hills so you don't see the far horizon.

Small lighting kits don't really allow you to light whole fields at night for single-source moonlight effect unless you have one of those cameras that can shoot at incredibly high ISO levels.

It sort of comes down to what you can afford to get in terms of light and power and then working with whatever that gives you in terms of area covered at night. A few weeks ago, I managed to side-light a row of four small homes with a single M18 (1.8K HMI) on a high combo stand for a moonlight effect.

Patrick Walsh
2 weeks ago
Patrick Walsh 2 weeks ago

Thanks for the feedback.

I have considered day for night and also the time after the sun dips below the horizon but before it is complete darkness. So we would still retain the gloomy blue tinted daylight that is around civil to astronomical twilight period.

I am probably going to go with a HMI depending on the costs, as I was trying to find someone with experience that could give some guidance as I have little experience with high power lights, so this will be a first time.

 

I have a attached some images which give an idea of the area in particular. The wide is to give you an idea of the area for the shot and the slightly tighter shot is the framing for our final image. 

https://www.rogerdeakins.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Wide-shot.png
Patrick Walsh
2 weeks ago
Patrick Walsh 2 weeks ago

Final image framing (this image did not get added to the recent reply.

https://www.rogerdeakins.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/final-idea.png
dmullenasc
2 weeks ago
dmullenasc 2 weeks ago

Did a quick day-for-night version...

https://www.rogerdeakins.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Screen-Shot-2019-10-09-at-4.24.57-PM.jpg
dmullenasc
2 weeks ago
dmullenasc 2 weeks ago

Another.

https://www.rogerdeakins.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Screen-Shot-2019-10-09-at-4.33.49-PM.jpg
Patrick Walsh
2 weeks ago
Patrick Walsh 2 weeks ago

They look great, I will definitely consider day for night when we go to book shoot days. Shooting in RAW aswell will help improve the effect as well.

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