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BR2049 pink joi scene recreation (5 replies and 10 comments)

brycesaucier
2 weeks ago
brycesaucier 2 weeks ago

I recently shot a blade runner scene recreation for the shotdeck contest with some of my friends. After coloring as close as possible, aside from not having the vfx elements, I feel that we fell short on accuracy with light quality. I have attached some BTS photos that show the key and hairlight positions along with the final image. The key is a skypanel s60 bounced into unbleached muslin and diffused with a 6x6 silk. The fill is an aputure nova p300c bounced into a 4x4 ultrabounce floppy, and the hairlight is an astera titan tube with a snapgrid. What changes could we have made for a more accurate recreation? 

https://www.rogerdeakins.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Collage.jpg
brycesaucier
2 weeks ago
brycesaucier 2 weeks ago

BTS of lighting setup

https://www.rogerdeakins.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/IMG_1852-scaled.jpg
Mike
2 weeks ago

Very impressive imo. Actor and lighting is a very good match.

brycesaucier
2 weeks ago

Thank you Mike!

Roger Deakins
2 weeks ago
Roger Deakins 2 weeks ago

You seem to be using more than one light source whereas I used a single soft source.

brycesaucier
2 weeks ago

The light in the original does seem much softer than what we created now that I'm looking at the shadow of the fingers more closely. Would that soft source still be close to the subject or much larger and further away?

Roger Deakins
2 weeks ago
Roger Deakins 2 weeks ago

The source was something like a 40' x 20' light grid diffusion and about 30' from the subject. I would have used a series of open face 2Ks behind the diffusion.to further the effect.

Mike
2 weeks ago

I thought that you would have used a larger light source behind the diffusion than just two 2K’s being 30 feet away. Obviously, I am wrong.

Mike
2 weeks ago

Brycesaucier,
You went through a great deal of trouble trying to simulate the special scene from BR2049, not only the time and expense of performing the task but you had to get the wig, special contact lenses etc etc. I wonder what motivated you to go through all that pain without payment, was it to just add to your ‘curriculum vitae’ or was it a challenge to prove that you could do it. Just interested that’s all.

brycesaucier
2 weeks ago

@Roger That is great information to have, thank you!

brycesaucier
2 weeks ago

@Mike I was motivated because BR2049 is one of my favorite films and the shot seemed extremely difficult to execute without vfx, so the uncertainty and challenge was exciting to me. And now having gotten to this point I've learned what it would have taken to get the quality of light that was in the the actual film! Worth the trouble

Mike
2 weeks ago

Good for you. That’s the best education you can get, roll up your sleeves and learn from actual experience of doing it yourself. I congratulate you for your determination.
It was rather a good match, wasn’t it, I think even Roger was impressed.

Roger Deakins
2 weeks ago
Roger Deakins 2 weeks ago

I didn't say TWO 2Ks. I probably used 6 or 7. Using multiple small sources creates a softer effect than one large lamp.

Mike
2 weeks ago

Yes, you did say a ‘series’ of 2K’s.Then said, a single light source!  Which confused me. Perhaps I misread it, 6 or 7 lamps sounds better. The effect was very impressive all the same.

tylerfukuda
2 weeks ago

Roger, I’m curious to know and maybe i’m just being lazy not attempting myself.. but in the series of lamps are you stacking them creating a shape or would it be a single line?

Roger Deakins
2 weeks ago
Roger Deakins 2 weeks ago

The idea is to make a large 'single' source. I generally use them evenly spaced in a line and that is what I did for the Joi shot. But I might also have a line of lamps with narrower spacing at the center. This still creates a 'single' source when punched through a large diffusion but gives the light a little more shape. I have also used a line of lamps without any diffusion in front to create a soft source. When the lamps are far from the subject and if there are enough of the light on the subject will appear soft. This can be seen in the lighting diagrams from the night work on 'True Grit'. 

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