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Blade Runner 2049: 2D or 3D? (23 replies and 7 comments)

DanBull
2 years ago
DanBull 2 years ago

Howdy all. 

Is it best to see Roger's latest long awaited sci-fi in 2D or 3D? My instinct was 3D, until I learned that Roger said he wasn't going to shoot in 3D, ergo it has been converted to 3D purely in post? If this is the case I would prefer to watch it 2D. 

Thoughts please. 

Cheers. 

onewontdo
2 years ago
onewontdo 2 years ago

I live in Vancouver, Canada and there is literally one theatre out of eleven that has non-3D viewing. Even that is not a regular viewing; it is "VIP" viewing which you pay more than the 3D or IMAX for much smaller screen, standard speaker system but 19+ age restriction with leather seats and meal served to your seat. What a sad day to be a cinema for who has to compromise and dig around to find a theatre that shows the movie as it was originally intended to be shown. Even though I highly anticipated for the film, I may have to wait to view it in my home system than to endure the desaturated, darkened "3D" screen that gives me nausea and strains my eyes. I hope this gimmick that is "3D" soon dies out.

DVDfever
2 years ago
DVDfever 2 years ago

Any comments on the end credits I've read about, or the extra image on the IMAX version?

DVDfever
2 years ago
DVDfever 2 years ago

Hi, I see Roger's recommendation for the 2D widescreen version, but is anyone worth considering spending the extra for IMAX as it opens up to 1.90:1?

 

I see Roger also worked on Skyfall, which I understand had that ratio throughout in IMAX (and Spectre, I think), but I saw both in 2.35:1, as 2D tickets are considerably less than IMAX.

 

Also, I understand that there are 11 minutes of Special End credits. Am I right in thinking that these will need the lighting low to make the best of them?

At my local Vue Lowry and Vue Printworks (where the IMAX was taken over from Odeon), they whack the lights up to full brightness regardless of whatever's going on, so any effect from something special in them will be lost, and at the Lowry, the lights are so bright, they leak onto the screen and obscure the picture. The number of times I've tried to get this across to them at their head office has left me banging my OWN head on the wall!

Meanwhile, Odeon Trafford Centre only have minimal lighting during credits, so I prefer there these days. Vue claim their practice is down to 'health and safety' regulations from the council, but that Odeon is covered by the same council, and they manage not to ruin the experience!

 

Thanks.

Daniel Keeble
2 years ago
Daniel Keeble 2 years ago

I just hope my local Odeon does a good job 🙁 

Roger Deakins
2 years ago
Roger Deakins 2 years ago

Of course I still go to the cinema!!!! The Arclight cinemas are really good. We just returned from the Landmark, which also has very good standard 2D projection. We saw 'Lucky', which stars the late great Harry Dean Stanton.

darklight
2 years ago

Thank you, Roger! Will go see " Lucky" this week after BR 2049

Roger Deakins
2 years ago
Roger Deakins 2 years ago

I think I said previously that I oversaw the timing of all the versions of 'BR2049' including the HDR version.

My preferred version is the standard 2D widescreen version. A problem I have with some viewing systems is their use of silvered screens. The image projected on a silvered screen lacks saturation as well as density as it falls off from a hot spot in the center of vision. This may not be so apparent for someone sitting in the optimum viewing seat but it is a compromise in terms of image quality wherever you are seated, though it maybe a compromise worth accepting if you are a fan of 3D.

darklight
2 years ago

I'm one of those ppl will watch all versions of BR 2049.

Roger, Do you still go to cinema? Arclight Hollywood seems becomes a go-to spot for lot filmmakers nowdays for any movie... The standard 2D screen.

TV
2 years ago

Thank you for you answer. I really appreciate it.

TV
2 years ago
TV 2 years ago

Hi Roger,

do you then recommend seeing the movie in standard cinema or IMAX 2D?

Thx.

TV

andymw
2 years ago
andymw 2 years ago

Hi Roger, how much involvement did you or colorists have in the HDR Dolby Cinema / Dolby Vision encoding of BR2049, or is that generally done by Dolby folks instead?

Roger Deakins
2 years ago
Roger Deakins 2 years ago

Exactly! Those espousing film as the 'greatest' image capture system then do their scans at 2K. Absurd.

Roger Deakins
2 years ago
Roger Deakins 2 years ago

We did NOT use the DMR process for the IMAX version of 'Blade Runner 2049'. I had experience testing this process when finishing 'Skyfall'. I didn't like the effect it was going to do with that film so we made our own transfer of 'Skyfall' for IMAX and everyone was very happy with the result.

Many films still go through the DI process as 2K files. I think many people would be surprise by some of the titles.

HDR is certainly a good projection system but you have to be very careful with it. The black levels can look artificially dark and the highlights can be so intense that it can be hard to look at what is important in the frame. For instance, it can be impossible and actually painful to look at a dark face against a bright window if the image is not re timed specifically for HDR.

Zippy
2 years ago

Glad you are in control of the IMAX release as well, Roger. And thanks for the Skyfall IMAX info. 🙂

I agree, HDR also needs as much attention as any other process into film making and post-production.

Yeah, it's a shame there are a lot of movies still finished in 2K. I keep tracking by DCP info, magazines etc if a movie is 2K or 4K finished.

Also with 4K UHD Blu-ray on the market, it would be very welcome to have native 4K finished movies on 4K Blu-ray. I don't care if the VFX/CGI are in 2K/4K upscaled. Camera acquisition is King.

And especially those film makers that prefer film over digital, it would say. Stop using 2K scans from the 35mm in the first place.

Dawson Boyle
2 years ago

Agree I believe "HDR" is a gimmick and the dynamic range comes from the camera and HDR seems to just add extra contrast and clip information

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