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The shining: lens choice (6 replies and 15 comments)

Gustavo Perez
1 month ago
Gustavo Perez 1 month ago

I got an awesome opportunity today to use the lenses used to shoot The Shining today. The lenses as one could imagine have been put through their paces so they have quite a unique look to them compared to the Cooke lenses I've used in the cage. 

Mike
1 month ago
Mike 1 month ago

Can you let us know what lenses were used on the “Shining”.

Gustavo Perez
1 month ago

How can I add photos to a comment?

Gustavo Perez
1 month ago

It was a set of five lenses. 25, 35, 50, 85 and another lens ( I can't see the marking in the photograph I took.

Baudelaire
1 month ago
Baudelaire 1 month ago

Thats really interesting. Also like to know more. Holy cinema relics.

I got to photograph ET (there is only one) a few years ago for a project, he has his own vault and curator restoration team. Was surprisingly moving, like being shown the bones of a saint.

Gustavo Perez
1 month ago

I was in for a lab and the professor knowing I was a camera nerd asked if I wanted to see something cool. Obviously, I declined this offer. He gave my partner and I two cases and he told us that the smaller of the two contained the lenses used on the shining. I'll ask how he procured these lenses the next time I see the professor!

Also, if you don't mind me asking . What were you doing that you got to shoot ET ? Because I'm pretty sure that story would be a bit more interesting than mines lol.

Baudelaire
1 month ago

Shooting in nYC and LA for a big Fashion Magazine we worked with Speilberg to recreate classic scenes from his movies with modern day stars. I was given scans form original film, jaws, jurassic, close encounter E.T. Was a really great project but probably did to too well as theres basically little visual difference between original and the new. https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/film-tv/g2364/best-steven-spielberg-film-scenes-photos-1212/»

Frank
1 month ago
Frank 1 month ago

The very set of Zeiss Super Speeds used in the production?

Mike
1 month ago

Probably mark1 or mark 2 series which included the dreaded 18 mm.I think that you will find that some of these lenses were eventually shared with ‘Star Wars‘ being made next door while ‘Shining’ was finishing. The wood from the Hotel sets then turned into space ships. Typical of Elstree Studios. I understand that Samuelson supplied the lenses for both films, although Kubrick did collect his own lenses that were adapted for his use.

sorry letters decided to get bigger. Computers are strange creatures.

 

Frank
1 month ago

Kubrick owned his own equipment and would match the lenses for a complete set himself, which is what makes the idea that someone would get to use them so intriguing. I'd have thought they'd be in the Kubrick archive at University of the Arts London or in the worldwide touring exhibition.

Did they use Super Speeds for any elements on Empire Strikes Back? It's anamorphic widescreen, and then I'd have thought the special effects plates (VistaVision or 65) would've been Hasselblads or Nikkors.

Gustavo Perez
1 month ago

I asked my partner and he told me they were Zeiss. However, I don't thing they were super speeds. I'll have to check back with my professor to get the details on the lenses. I was too excited to put them on the camera !

Mike
1 month ago

You can add photos by pressing “Attach a file” and then transfer them from your photo library.

Mitchell P
1 month ago

The original Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back were shot on Panavision C series lenses, while Return of the Jedi was shot on Cooke Xtal Express and Varotal lenses. Kubrick also used Zeiss Super Speeds on Full Metal Jacket and Eyes Wide Shut.

Mike
1 month ago

That’s very interesting.

dmullenasc
1 month ago

Yes, I'm not sure why "Empire Strikes Back" would need to borrow Kubrick's spherical lenses, being an anamorphic shoot except for VistaVision plates but I'm sure the occasional element could have been shot on 4-perf 35mm spherical...

Freddo
11 hours ago

Some of the scenes in The Shining were certainly shot with Zeiss Superspeed MkI's. Easily distinguished by the triangular oof light blobs in the background in the ballroom scene for instance. Only the MkI superspeeds had that unique triangular aperture.

Roger Deakins
1 month ago
Roger Deakins 1 month ago

Interesting that it seems impossible to tell the difference!

Gustavo Perez
1 month ago
Gustavo Perez 1 month ago

Wow, I never realized the button was under the text box, lol! These are the photos I got of the lenses, Mike. As I said in an earlier post, I'm not sure about the lenses' details, so I hope this helps you identify them. 

Gustavo Perez
1 month ago
Gustavo Perez 1 month ago

Here they are 

https://www.rogerdeakins.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/JPEG-scaled.jpg
https://www.rogerdeakins.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/JPEG_2-scaled.jpg
https://www.rogerdeakins.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/JPEG_3-scaled.jpg
dmullenasc
1 month ago

Obviously Super-Speeds being T/1.4...

Mike
1 month ago

These lenses are “minty” and seem have been well looked after. They were made between 1971- 1974 according to the serial number and so may have been the lenses used on “shining”. Popular Lenses over their long lifetime are normally stripped, rebuilt and repainted adding modern lens coatings so they may not always look Original. Old Zeiss lenses are still fetching high prices so an overhaul is money well spent. Rental firms are happy to revamp their equipment if it means increased profits. Cameras can be thrown in the bin but not lenses, they can be adapted.

Mike
4 weeks ago

Just to add that one of the lenses has been engraved with “Property of ?” Which does indicate that they were owned by a Rental firm at some stage in its life. So it looks like they were sold off and entered into private hands. Or they are still owned by the rental firm. Goods lenses are rarely sold off especially if they had a pedigree.

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