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Revolutionary Road vs Hail Caesar Apparent Sharpness (2 replies and 2 comments)

Brant
2 months ago
Brant 2 months ago

Hi Roger,

I know many things can impact the perception of sharpness.

In looking at “Revolutionary Road” and “Hail Caesar”, the latter your most recent film shot on celluloid, I am wondering if what I perceive as a much sharper image in “Hail Caesar” on Blu-Ray or streaming vs “Revolutionary Road” looking at the same two kinds of media, both in HD resolution, is due mostly to 4K finish for Hail Caesar and a fully digital post process. I believe “Revolutionary Road” got a 2k finish? I suppose some of it could be Vision2 stock vs Vision3, but how much if any? I know both film were shot using Master Primes. (I personally prefer the smoother aesthetic of “Revolutionary Road” as viewed in HD.)

Roger Deakins
2 months ago
Roger Deakins 2 months ago

That is probably the way the transfer is made, compression etc. Who knows what is done? The two films were shot on emulsion and pretty much on the same films stocks. Was "Rev Road' a 2K DCP? I doubt you would see a  difference in sharpness either way.

Brant
2 months ago

Thank you for your reply. I seem to recall reading somewhere that “Revolutionary Road” was a 2k finish but I certainly wouldn’t swear to the accuracy of that - the recollection is vague.
I suspect it’s what you say, the way the transfers were done, perhaps meaning the equipment used and time separating the two.
I am curious about this because I am choosing between Master Primes and Cooke S4’s for an upcoming project I’m shooting on 35 (as mentioned on a previous thread), and find the group of films you shot on celluloid just prior to the Alexa pretty similar in image aesthetic. Maybe “Jesse James” just a tad softer with the Cookes, especially in wider apertures. “Hail Caesar” probably reflects the most contemporary transfer technology. I suspect I will chose the Cookes. It will be interesting to see how they perform with Vision3 and a fresh 4k scan, at a 5.6 and 2 to 2.8. (Exteriors and inside a barn)

Roger Deakins
2 months ago
Roger Deakins 2 months ago

The Cooke S4s are exceptionally good lenses. My preference for the Master Primes is based on their faster speed and weight, not much else, though the iris pattern is different as well.

Brant
2 months ago

Exceptionally good, and for the look I'm after, that tiny bit more softness an asset, especially given what might be "modern" 4k film scanning precision adding some sharpness and detail that may not have shown up with, say "Jesse James"...maybe. Who knows, as you say. If the results aren't too embarrassing I might post some grabs when I get it back.

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