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choosing focal length? (4 replies and 1 comment)

djamel
4 months ago
djamel 4 months ago

i am new to filmmaking and choosing focal length is a hard decision sometimes i guess my question is i wanna know what directors i love used like if i wanna achieve the feel of a clockwork orange by kubrick since i like wide angles and the intimate feeling when getting close to the subject i wanna know focal lengths he used . i read that he loved zeiss superspeeds and cooke panchros . if anyone can guess the shots bellow what focal length just because i'm curious to know what real masters mostly used for establishing shots and dialogue scenes and closeups ...etc i know every shot is different and sometimes a 3mm can make a difference on how the face looks ,so if anyone can guess or have information on the shots bellow

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djamel
4 months ago
djamel 4 months ago

the shots  it's  1 to 15   from left to right going down (1 is top left and 15 is bottom right)

The Byre
4 months ago
The Byre 4 months ago

That all looks to be an 18 or below.  Get a DSLR and start zooming in and out and get the length you like for the shot and use a prime with that FL.

Mike
4 months ago
Mike 4 months ago

Kubrick used a variety of cameras and lenses on “Clockwork Orange”. One of his favourites was the Arri 2c with 200 ft mags and also the Newman Sinclair P100 with a Cooke Panchro 18mm F1.7 was used on many close ups. He operated himself on many scenes.

The photos you attached probably vary from 50mm -18mm but the 32mm was the most useful of those lenses.

First photo is the Arri BL3 probably the best camera ARRI made.

Second photo in the Newman Sinclair P100 35mm camera one of the smallest made, twin VF with a speed meter and 12V operation.

Other two photos are of the Arri 2C with 200 ft mags, Kubricks favourite camera, used extensively on all of his films. He personally owned 2 of these cameras and were meticulously maintained.

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dmullenasc
4 months ago
dmullenasc 4 months ago

Keep in mind that the field of view of the focal length depends on the format you are shooting in, so an 18mm lens on a 4-perf 35mm camera will give you a narrower view than an 18mm lens on a Full-Frame 35 DSLR.

Yes, a number of the really wide-angle shots there probably were done on an 18mm Cooke. Kubrick also sometimes used the super wide-angle 9.8mm Kinoptik like when Alex walks through the record store in Clockwork or some of the maze chase in The Shining. But it's pretty extreme. The slow-motion walk of the droogs along the river in Clockwork is actually a long lens, perhaps the end of a zoom.

I think some of Eyes Wide Shot used the Zeiss Variable Primes, very short zooms, so it's hard to say the exact focal length used. Otherwise, he was probably using the Zeiss Super Speeds for some of that.

djamel
4 months ago

thanks

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