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Are lens flares ever a good choice? (9 replies and 2 comments)

EzraG
3 months ago
EzraG 3 months ago

Hi Roger and other forum members!

I recently heard an interview in which Roger expressed a dislike of lens flares, as they are distractions.

My question then is, are there any notable scenarios in which a lens flare would be an appropriate stylistic choice?

Thanks!

Ezra

chris33
3 months ago
chris33 3 months ago

I think in the end it's really just personal preference. Lens flares can certainly be considered a flaw, when they are distracting and serve no  specific purpose, but I think especially with dream-like scenes they can add a lot and help in creating surreal imagery. 

chris33
3 months ago
chris33 3 months ago

Thats an example of a subtle lens flare I really like, from the movie "Her". It uses it to make the image more dreamy and hazy, which I think really adds to the atmosphere it wants to create, instead of distracting. 

https://www.rogerdeakins.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/her-lens-flare.jpg
GianniRanzuglia
3 months ago
GianniRanzuglia 3 months ago

Hi EzraG,

The lenses they used in Licorice Pizza gave them some blue horizontal flares, as well as a this vintage look to the whole image that helped set the film in PTA's world. Might be worth checking out!

James Parsons
3 months ago

Maybe those were blue streak filters? Those create a streak perpendicular to the angle of the groove cut in the filter, often imitating anamorphic flares… or did they just use anamorphic lenses and blue lights?

M Ryan
3 months ago
M Ryan 3 months ago

Flares can really seem to work well in some action films, ie Die Hard had tons of flares, but they were always well judged and supported the story on the screen.. can add drama and suspense, punctuate a scene and when done well don't seem that distracting and can even help pull you in rather than out of the movie.. the directors commentary on Die Hard has some great comments on this 🙂 

As much as I love Roger's work, I would love to see him shoot a flarey anamorphic film one day 🙂 

https://www.rogerdeakins.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/die-hard-2.jpeg
https://www.rogerdeakins.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/DieHard59-660x284-1.jpg
Badarinath K B
3 months ago
Badarinath K B 3 months ago

It's always personal choice. Roger doesn't like flare and effects not at all. he had said that several times in some interviews. But legendary cinematographer Conard L Hall used flare effects in several movies that he had done. If you had any further doubts regarding this. this, might help you .

https://youtu.be/l21imjFeukk»

EzraG
3 months ago

Thanks for this video! It was very informative

Al Duffield
3 months ago
Al Duffield 3 months ago

Without meaning to sound disrespectful, this question is a little like asking if it’s ok to use a 32mm lens, or shoot at T1.2 or shoot with hard light, or without haze etc. Every quality of the image is a tool to use or not as the Artist sees fit.

What matters is when do you like to use/avoid lens flares?

dmullenasc
3 months ago
dmullenasc 3 months ago

A good example of deliberately heavy lens flares for effect is the boat approach at night to the Playboy Bunny show in "Apocalypse Now" -- the lens artifacts are combined with audio artifacts like feedback from a microphone, all to create a surreal, dreamlike feeling. A similar thing is done later for the Do Lung Bridge sequence where it becomes more of a nightmare.

Another example is in Polanski's "Tess" where Tess discovers the confessional letter she wrote to Angel was never read, as she steps down on the ladder with the sun behind her, there is a momentary huge flare as she decides to crumple up the letter.

The Byre
3 months ago
The Byre 3 months ago

Unlike haze and a few other things that have to happen in the studio or location, you can always add all kinds of lens aberrations and flares after the event in post.  

Roger Deakins
3 months ago
Roger Deakins 3 months ago

I made a shot with extreme lens flare only a week or two ago. I don't like to see lens flare unless it serves a purpose, as it did in 'Apocalypse Now'.

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